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Godless Sunday Quote #10 September 13, 2008

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Since there haven’t been any for a while, here’s a few:

Every sect is a certificate that God has not plainly revealed his will to man. To each reader the Bible conveys a different meaning.

Robert G. Ingersoll, “Some Mistakes of Moses”

 

An Inuit hunter asked the local missionary priest:  “If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?”  “No,” said the priest, “not if you did not know.”  “Then why,” asked the Inuit earnestly, “did you tell me?” 

Annie Dillard, Pilgrim at Tinker Creek

Instead of being born again, why not just grow up? 

Author Unknown

The Transcendental Argument for the existence of god – why it fails (Part 2). September 13, 2008

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In Part 1 of this extended argument (quite a while ago, I know) I looked at the claims made about logic in the Transcendental Argument for God (TAG) and why they don’t hold up to scrutiny.  If you haven’t read that post, don’t bother reading this one yet.  Click the link, have a quiet sit and think, and then come on back – I’ll wait.

 

The next major theme I’d like to deal with is the TAG claim that only the christian god provides a rational basis for the use of induction.  The claim rests on the supposed Problem of Induction and ‘solves’ this supposed problem by a naked assertion that the only source of uniformity in nature is the uniform nature of god.  Of course, no proof is actually offered for the uniform nature of god except a reliance on ‘scriptural authority’, but you can’t have everything…

 

TAG proponents argue that inductive reasoning assumes the uniformity of nature – that is, we assume that how the world worked yesterday is pretty much how it will work today.  They assert that this assumption is invalid – unless we also assume that there is something (god) that can account for/provide for the uniformity of nature.  They claim that the uniformity of nature is, and can only be, accounted for by God’s uniform nature.

 

You will have noticed that there is nothing here but naked assertions.

 

Before picking apart the many fallacies in this view, let’s first take a look at what the problem of induction actually is.

 

An inductive argument is one where the conclusion is said to be supported by the premises, but not necessitated by the premises (as would be the case in a deductive argument).  There is an example of each in Part 1 of this argument, but I’ll give another:

 

Premise: the sun has risen every day of my life to this point.

Conclusion: the sun will rise tomorrow.

 

The problem here is that the premise is a collection of previous experiences, none of which necessarily has any bearing on the future.  Perhaps tomorrow will be the first time that the sun does not rise.  You cannot know for sure based only on past experience – there is no absolute logical basis for a ‘therefore’ statement between the premise and the conclusion (of course, the lack of a real therefore is actually the difference between induction and deduction – a justified therefore shouldn’t actually be expected since inductive arguments are probabilistic.  More on that later).  David Hume pointed this out in the mid-18th century in his book Inquiry Concerning Human Understanding.

 

Notice that the assumption that nature is uniform does not actually fix this problem.  The statement that ‘nature is uniform’ does not presuppose that the sun will rise every day – what if part of the nature of suns is such that once every thousand years they don’t rise?  For that matter, what of the much more supportable (and, incidentally, true…) notion that suns ‘die’?  Will it rise then?  To say that the uniformity of nature would justify induction would only be true if we knew everything there was to know about how nature operates.

 

The uniformity of nature is a necessary but insufficient condition for the use of induction.  In other words, even if the uniformity of nature were a proven fact, it still wouldn’t, by itself, provide justification for the use of induction – a key point that TAG proponents constantly miss.  This is unfortunate because it blows their entire argument out of the water.  Stating (by fiat) that the nature of god is such that it provides for the uniformity of nature does not actually fix the problem that it was intended to solve.

 

We can also ask, “On what grounds does the TAG proponent ‘know’ that the nature of god is uniform?”  The answer is rather funny since it turns out to be an inductive argument itself.  A christian ‘knows’ that god upholds the uniformity of nature because god said so and promised to continue.  Let’s leave aside the obvious unsupported assertion (that god said so) – on what grounds do christians trust god’s statements and promises?  Because god has never lied in the past.  Leaving aside yet another unsupported faith statement, we can now see that TAG proponents are relying on past events to support their claim to knowledge of future ones – an inductive argument.  Using inductive arguments to justify the validity of inductive arguments?  Then you’ve just failed Philosophy 101.

 

Assuming the uniformity of god (UoG) to avoid the need for a naked assertion of the uniformity of nature (UoN) just pushes the problem back a step – the uniformity of god is still a naked assertion.  The assumption of the UoN and the assumption of the UoG both do the same amount of work when it comes to questions of certainty of knowledge (otherwise known as epistemology – how we know what we know).  If we are faced with a choice between assuming the UoN to provide the necessary but not sufficient conditions for the use of induction, and using the assumption of the UoG to provide the same – which is the more reasonable choice?  Occam’s ever-sharp razor makes the choice here – which choice is the more parsimonious?  Which choice contains the least number of extra assumptions?

 

I don’t really have to answer that, do I?

 

The TAG proponent asserts that atheism has a problem, states that only the christian notion of god can overcome that problem, and then quietly fails to recognise that they have precisely the same problem that they were sure was such a death blow to atheism.

 

Well done, guys.  Well done.

 

 

After I’ve finished this series of three posts (the next one will look at the TAG take on morality) I’d like to come back to induction and look at the question of how much of a problem it really is.  The assumption that induction presents an insoluble problem seems to rely somewhat on a strawman version of what type of conclusions it’s supposed to be able to provide, and completely ignores the role of probability – but more on that later.  Before I finish up this post I’d like to just point out a few things.

 

First, many christian TAG proponents assume that Hume (along with Bertrand Russel) was the last word on the problem of induction – he wasn’t.  There have been many at-least-partial solutions proposed to it over the years since, and many justifications of the use of induction.  Hume himself proposed a reasonable justification for the use of induction (if not a technical logical justification) in the same book in which he raised the problem.  Hume proposed that induction was a habit born of necessity on the purely pragmatic grounds that we’d starve without assuming the uniformity of nature.

 

Or, as I like to put it: Science – it works, bitches!

 

Second, it must be noted that the assumption of the uniformity of nature is not an irrational assumption.  Not everything that cannot be strictly logically justified is irrational.  There is nothing about the assumption that is inherently contradictory or absurd – though, given the way TAG proponents speak about a universe without a foundational god, you might have a hard time gleaning that from their ‘arguments’.  Just because we can’t say for certain that the sun will rise tomorrow does not justify you saying that it won’t – all we can say is that we don’t know for certain.  But, again, there is nothing necessarily inherently irrational about things that are not justified or provable.  Just try proving logically that your name is really your name – can’t be done, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t continue to use your name.

 

Third, some TAG proponents seem to use a similar tactic to creationists – pick holes in an opponent’s position and declare yourself the default winner.  By pointing out the technical problem of the lack of justification for induction as used by atheists (and everyone else), and glossing over the many shortcomings and holes in their own attempt to use the notion of god as a justification, they attempt to declare themselves the only alternative position by fiat without ever actually illuminating precisely what that position is, examining it critically or seeking other possibilities.  Not that I actually expect them to behave with intellectual integrity, but it would be nice to be surprised once in a while…

 

Something new… August 5, 2008

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The world’s smallest snake has been discovered in Barbados by Blair Hedges, out of Penn State University – the same guy who discovered the  world’s smallest frog and the world’s smallest lizard.

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It’s common name is the Barbados Thread Snake – it’s tiny, blind and the females lay a single egg that takes up almost half of their body, out of which hatches a snake as thin as a strand of spaghetti.  But who cares!?  It’s gorgeous…

Details can be found here.

Something Old… August 5, 2008

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My ‘favourite’ Bishop, Anthony Fisher, coordinator of ‘World’ Youth Day, has attempted to explain away his disgusting ‘old wounds’ comments by saying that he was referring to the media, not to the families of victims of child abuse.

Bishop Anthony Fisher

First – what a crock of shit.  He was caught expressing what he really feels and displaying to the world the kind of person he really is – this is nothing more than back-pedalling.  But let’s do him the undeserved courtesy of taking his excuse at face value.  What does it reveal if he really was taking the media to task for ‘crankily dwelling’ on the old wounds of church-perpetrated paedophilia?  It says quite plainly that, as far as he’s concerned, the extended $68million party thrown by the Australian government for the benefit of one of the richest theocracies on earth is more important than that same theocracy’s complicit behaviour in thousands of cases of rape.  Hey who cares that thousands of our priests have raped and fondled their way through their struggle with heirarchically imposed celibacy?  We’re having fun now!!

Once more, I find myself saying – fuck you, Anthony Fisher, you twisted evil piece of shit.

The Bad Astronomer to fill Randi’s shoes. August 5, 2008

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Phil Plait, the incredibly good Bad Astronomer, has been asked by James ‘The Amazing’ Randi to take over his place as President of the James Randi Educational Foundation – and, thankfully, Phil had the good sense to accept (press release here).

Randi will, of course, stay on as Chairman of the Board at the JREF, continuing the great work that he has devoted the better part of his life to for as long as he can.  The Amazing One is now in his eighties and recently had major heart surgery – since then he has been most sensibly working to ensure that the JREF will be in good shape to continue on without him when that awful day eventually comes.  I really can’t think of anyone else he could have chosen who could do that job better than Phil Plait. 

If you don’t know anything about Phil, check out his blog (recently relocated to Discover magazine) – Phil is an astronomer, educator and skeptic, and a regular at the JREF’s Amazing Meeting, held in Vegas.  He has a great sense of humour, bucket loads of common sense, an excellent background in science and education, plenty of ‘geek cred’ and even looks good on camera – everything you want in the Chairman of an organisation like the JREF.  His book, Bad astronomy, is one of my favourites.

Best of luck, Phil, and congratulations to you and to James Randi for his great good sense.

Godless Sunday Quote #9 July 27, 2008

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Two quotes this week (I couldn’t decide between them):

Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain and presumptuous desire for a second one.

Richard Dawkins

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.

Christopher Hitchens

Wacko of the Week #6 – Bishop Anthony Fisher July 20, 2008

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Bishop Fisher is the coordinator of World Youth Day - the Pope’s latest tax-payer funded junket, grossly ill-named since it assumes that the world is Catholic.  It seems that Bishop Fucker Fisher is disturbed that some cranky individuals are spoiling the ‘fun’:

“I think most of Australia was enjoying, delighting in the beauty and goodness of these young people … rather than dwelling crankily as a few people are doing on old wounds,” he said.

What are the ‘old wounds’ that some individuals are ‘dwelling crankily’ on?  Rape.  Rape of children.  Rape that left those children unable to function as adults, leading one to alcoholism and one to suicide.

Picture this – you’re a parent whose child was raped repeatedly by a trusted church figure.  You want some sort of justice – some acknowledgement of the horror from those who assisted it, who allowed it to continue.  And what are you told?  Sit down and shut up – you’re depressing.  It was ages ago.  Let it go.

FUCK YOU, Anthony Fisher, you sick evil bastard.

The Catholic church will have no realistic claim to moral authority until priests guilty of child abuse are immediately defrocked, ex-communicated and turned over to the police.  And until fucks like Anthony Fisher are drummed out of their roles as ’spiritual leaders’.

Godless Sunday Quote #8 July 20, 2008

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“It ain’t the parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.”

Mark Twain

The Transcendental Argument for God – coming soon July 20, 2008

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Part 1 of my rebuttal to the Transcendental Argument for God has been up for some time now, dealing with the ‘God is necessary if logic is to exist’ part of the argument.  I promised parts 2 and 3, dealing with induction and morality – and they really are coming soon, but I am not a philosopher – merely an interested and relatively informed layman.  I am, however, somewhat obsessive about details.  I want to get it right and head off the more common objections and, consequently, it’s taking longer than I thought.  But it is coming soon – honest.

EDIT: part 2 is now up and can be found here.

I love the rain (and the fog, and damp, and…) July 20, 2008

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For the last two weeks I’ve been housesitting my parents’ place in the Adelaide Hills while they are on holiday in England.  I LOVE this place.

My family all grew up in a neighbourhood in north east England that can most charitably be described as shit.  It was almost completely surrounded by disused industry, further surrounded by still used industry (steel and chemical works), and beset by multigeneration unemployment – but it was in the shadow of some beautiful hills and a very short drive from some of the most beautiful moorlands in England.  Possibly because of the contrast, we all grew to love the English countryside – the colours throughout the year, the abysmal weather, the wonderful walks through ‘conker wood’ (conkers are horse chestnuts for the uninitiated), picking blackberries and bilberries on the moors…  All wonderful, if temporary, escapes from the black dust that fell from the steel works.

Since migrating to Australia I can honestly say that the only things I have ever missed about England are the English countryside – and the weather.  There’s something wonderful about a cold drizzly day with a steel grey sky.  Or even better, the freezing Autumn mornings with a perfect clear blue above.  I regularly say that in cold weather you simply put on more clothes to feel comfortable, but in the dry heat of summer there’s only so much you can legally take off…  Don’t get me wrong – I love my life here in Australia.  Australia has given me opportunities that, with my background, I would never have had in England – I became an Australian Citizen (rather than simply resident) at the earliest opportunity.  I would never even contemplate going back to England for anything other than a holiday (the feel of the ‘national character’ in England, the ‘I’m allright, Jack, and fuck you’ mentality that was the enduring legacy of the Thatcher years, is a real turn off). 

My parents have done fairly well for themselves (my Mum is in a very high position in Government House, working for the South Australian Governor, and Dad is an extremely experienced advanced skills teacher) and, at the earliest opportunity, they moved to the Adelaide Hills – the closest analogue, outside Tasmania, that Australia has to the ‘green hills of home’.

One day, in some dim and distant future when money is no longer such a worry, I hope to follow them.  All I have to do is convince my fifth generation Aussie wife…